SAWDAC executive director, Jason Neal, joins the conversation for an update on the activities of his association and a discussion about the right way forward for government programs like the Greener Homes Grant. From his perch representing window dealers across the country, Neal has some novel ideas for the best way to support our industry as we're asked to install higher performing products. But the conversation doesn't stop there, as Neal gets into some economic analysis and shares data from member surveys carried out by SAWDAC.